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"The bitter truth “when you don’t have sufficient Money Flow, nobody loves you, neither your mother nor yourself “ - Suresh Padmanabhan (Money Guru, Author of International Best Seller "I Love Money" & Creator Of Money Workshop)
Money causes most people more emotional problems than almost any other life issue. How many times have you heard that "Money doesn't grow on trees", that "Money is the root of all Evil" or that anyone who is rich must, by definition, be either a crook or extremely hard and tough?
Most people have extremely negative associations about Wealth and Money that were gained subconsciously whilst growing up.
The issues that arise around money for those on the path are two: worth and guilt. For many the willingness to be embodied, the risk to be visible that is life, the unraveling of conditionings around self value, are all reflected in 'living on the edge' financially. Coupled with this is an understanding of the injustice of modern economic systems, a love of all mankind that refuses plenty in the face of poverty. In the first case, regarding self-value, many strategies are available through modern psychology and modern teachings to confront and heal these wounds. In the case of the latter, misunderstandings abound.
For many there is a misunderstanding: 'If I am truly spiritual I will not have to deal with the world.' But you are spirit manifesting as form on the material plane, and therefore the opposite is in fact true. If you are truly spiritual, you will celebrate the world and find ways to live that reflect your joy.
These issues are complex and multidimensional. We have only touched on them. We invite you to participate in a debate here on this forum and give your views.
The best contributor to this discussion will win a seat worth Rs. 7,500/- in the forthcoming Money Workshop on 9th & 10th April 2011 at Delhi!
The judge ?
None other than "Money Guru" Suresh Padmanabhan himself ! So start contributing right now !
The Debate closes on 5th April Midnight!!!
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Enjoying your Materialistic Life ( off course with Lot of Money ) and also Leading a Spritual Life ( If One has really understood , what really is called a Spritual Life ) at the same time, is neither Contradictory NOR Sin.
Without entering the deeper intellectual realim of Vedas, Upnisheds and Higher Conciosness.
From Puranas :-
Most of the Indian Gods & Goddesses are wearing Golden Crowns on their Head, wearing lot of Golden & Diamond Jwellery , Best Silken Clothes, enjoying thier Life in their Palaces !!
We all seek Boons , Guidence from the Gods mentioned in Puranas.
Therefore No dicothemey is involved, its Very Simple and Straight Forward.
One can allways enjoy a Spritual Life and also Lead a rich Materialistic Life Simultaneously on this Planet Earth.
More from Osho :-
What is wrong in having money? One should not be possessive; one should be able to use it. And Jews know how to use it! One should not be miserly. Money has to be created and money has to be used. Money is a beautiful invention, a great blessing, if rightly used. It makes many things possible. Money is a magical phenomenon. If you have a ten-rupee note in your pocket, you have thousands of things in your pocket. You can have anything with those ten rupees. You can materialize a man who will massage your body the whole night! Or you can materialize food or you can materialize ANYTHING! That ten-rupee note carries many possibilities. You cannot carry all those possibilities with you if there is no note; then your life will be very limited. You can have a man who can massage your body, but then that is the only possibility you have with you. If you suddenly feel hungry or thirsty, then that man cannot do anything else. But a ten-rupee note can do many things, millions of things; it has infinite possibilities. It is one of the greatest inventions of man; there is no need to be against it. I am not against it.Use it. Don’t cling to it. Clinging is bad. The more you cling to money, the poorer the world becomes because of your clinging, because money is multiplied if it is always moving from one hand to another hand. In English we have another name for money which is more significant — it is “currency.” That simply indicates that money should always remain moving like a current. It should always be on the move from one hand to another hand. The more it moves the better.
For example, if I have a ten-rupee note and I keep it to myself, then there is only one ten-rupee note in the world. If I give it to you and you give it to somebody else and each person goes on giving, if it goes through ten hands then we have a hundred rupees, we have used a hundred rupees’ worth of utilities; the ten rupees is multiplied by ten. And Jews know how to use money; nothing is wrong in it. Yes, greed is bad. Greed means you become obsessed with money; you don’t use it as a means, it becomes the end. That is bad, and it is bad whether you are a Jew or a Jaina, Hindu or Mohammedan; it doesn’t matter.
Money is a creation of God, so is spirituality. so both are necessary to lead a balanced life. You have to create harmony between the two. otherwise huge problem. So balance your need and want. Again if, what you want is bigger than what your need, please relate it to something that is a function of spirituality ; may be some social work, charity, doing something for the good of mankind. Happiness,accomplishment are related to making others happy. So dear ones, there is nothing wrong in having money as much , but you should not be its slave; you shall control ,not that it shall control you. Bigger thing is to know you, your existence, and realize that. Easier said than done, but every thing has a beginning,once you do that you are destined to win. Why do you worry about fruites if you have the tree ( source). May god bless you. Thank you all. Sudhangsu
After getting sms from The New Age Foundation about the topic of debate ‘Money and Spirituality’, my immediate reaction was “No way…..they don’t mix….what a weird topic!”. And I continued my daily chores but somewhere at the back of my mind ideas about the topic were popping up, thought process triggered and gradually the ideas streamlined. With a paper and pen in my hand, I started to pen down what all came up to the brim…..
So dear friends…….it would be a lot easier to come to the crux of the topic if we first define ‘Spirituality’. Spirituality is a state of consciousness where one realizes the fact that one is a spiritual being having a human experience. It’s a state when we are able to distinguish ‘spirit’ and ‘physical body’. With this single thought the concept of Oneness comes in. When we know that we are all connected with each other and a part of this Universe, everyone will understand the most mind boggling question- WHO AM I? And at this level one will reach the periphery of Spirituality. There is more to be explored if one want to reach its core. This is the point where all differences between rich and poor, good and bad, love and hate, caste and creed vanishes. What remains is the pure connection with self and others.
After understanding the true meaning of Spirituality, now the task is to connect it with MONEY. Money, is the primary need of an individual like food shelter and clothing. No doubt it is essential to sustain life but the definition changes for a person for whom it becomes essential to have a luxurious living. The definition again changes for a person for whom it becomes essential to accumulate it and the desire to do so never ends. Money remains same but the need to acquire it changes. Till the objective to earn money revolves around sustenance and giving it back to the society in any form, it aligns with the laws of Spiritualism. The principles of spiritualism are a revelation. They remind us of our relationship to Universe, our relationship to each other, and our immortality. They reveal to us that reality is a logical and fair system created by loving Universe, to teach us that love, and unselfishness, and service to others lead us to joy and happiness .
So the essence of Spirituality is the search to know our true selves. When we discover this deeper sense of self, we are freed from many fears that plague us unnecessarily. We discover a greater inner peace, an inner security that does not depend upon the events or circumstances in the world around. As a result, we become less self- centered, we have less need for collecting possessions and social status, become happier, more loving and spiritual.
Reaching this level of consciousness (spirituality), we still earn money but out entire purpose to have it changes. It depends as to what is our primary focus as whatever we focus upon, grows. If we set our minds upon obtaining wealth then this will assume more importance in our lives. At the same time our interest in Spiritual growth will diminish as to make a lot of money requires a lot of concentrated focus. It also requires commitment that is primarily directed outward toward the material world.
The truth is that, spiritual growth also requires a high level of focus and commitment directed inward. Whatever is important to us we will spend most of our time doing and thinking about.
If we make spiritual path our primary focus, then we will eventually attune to the forces of Universe that will ensure abundance. And if we can truly link ourselves to the Ultimate source of all abundance then how can we remain poor?